E61: TOLWM + Helen Harrison x Inner Wealth: Transforming Pain Into Passion

Helen Harrison believes that pain holds the seeds of purpose, and she has spent 17 years guiding people through life’s highs and lows. In this episode of Think Out Loud With Me, she shares her personal journey from grief to growth, the lessons she learned about adoption, loss, and suicide, and the transformative power of joy -- all carefully woven together in her recently-released memoir, Inner Wealth: From Pain to Purpose. Through her coaching work and now the expanding circle of readers who are tapping into her lived experience, she helps others turn their own struggles into fuel for resilience and healing.

This was such an easy, fulfilling conversation! Dive in and listen as Helen joins me from Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, to wonder with me on many topics: 

🌿 From Pain to Power – How life’s deepest wounds can shape our greatest strength and mental health resilience.

💫 The Alchemy of Healing – Transmuting grief, loss, and trauma into wisdom, purpose, and a return home to Self.

🏡 Adoption, Identity & Belonging – Finding yourself when the roots of where you come from are tangled in questions.

🕊 Suicide, Silence & Speaking Truth – Breaking the silence around loss, mental health, and the weight of unspoken stories.

🔥 The Sacred Art of Laughter – Why joy isn’t just lighthearted—it’s a lifeline, a healer, and a revolution.

🛤 Coaching as a Compass – Helen’s guiding philosophy for navigating the wild terrain of self-discovery and healing.

🌎 Spirituality as an Anchor – Holding onto something bigger, grounding yourself in meaning when life feels unsteady.

Helen’s story is proof that even our darkest moments can shape our greatest impact. Tune in now! 🎙

🎧 Listen here: https://1qr.com/mp7qtdbb

📖 Grab Inner Wealth: From Pain to Purpose on Amazon!

🟡 Email Helen at helen@powerofchange.com.au

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🟢 Find Helen at this Website or this Website

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Transcript

WELCOME TO THINK OUT LOUD WITH ME, EPISODE 61.

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Natalie P.: Today on. Think out loud with me. I'm sitting down with Helen Harrison, coach speaker and author of the Just, released on Amazon inner wealth from pain to purpose.

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Natalie P.: Helen is someone who believes life is meant to be felt.

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Natalie P.: laughed through and deeply lived. She's danced with both pain and purpose.

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Natalie P.: And let's just say purpose makes for a much better dance partner.

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Natalie P.: But she doesn't shy away from the tough moments. Her journey from growing up in a big, wild, adopted family in New Zealand to finding her own path of healing and self-discovery has shaped her mission to help others do the same.

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Natalie P.: For the past 17 years Helen has been walking alongside people through life's highs and lows, guiding them to reconnect with themselves, embrace their inner power, and live with more joy.

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Natalie P.: depth, and meaning.

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Natalie P.: Her spirituality is her anchor, her laughter is her medicine.

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Natalie P.: and if you're on the path of growth, healing, and connection, she's your kind of person.

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Natalie P.: Helen, welcome to the show you have parachuted into my field of dreams from Brisbane, Queensland, Australia.

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Natalie P.: I can see you, my my listening audience cannot, but I absolutely adore your smile. It's good to lay eyes on you. Say Hi! To everybody.

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Helen Harrison: Hello, Natalie! It's fantastic to be here. Yeah, beautiful.

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Natalie P.: Awesome.

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Natalie P.: So you have just released this, as I said, a deeply personal book.

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Natalie P.: inner wealth from pain to purpose and from my reading.

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Natalie P.: You've been through some considerably heavy my word, defining moments, grief, identity, struggles, a search for belonging.

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Natalie P.: But at some point you started to see pain as part of the equation part of the story, and not the entire story. And you began to say, to see again purpose as the better dance partners, I, as the better dance, partner.

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Natalie P.: I would love to know.

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Natalie P.: When did that shift actually happen for you? Can you go back to that moment with us?

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Helen Harrison: Absolutely early thirties, and I had put all my energy and hope

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Helen Harrison: into finding my biological mother, because in my thinking, I thought, Well, if I find her I'll find me so. She had placed a veto

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Helen Harrison: for 10 years on my information, so I couldn't actually access who I was, or get any details till I was 28. So right through my twenties I sort of hung on to that.

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Helen Harrison: I will find me when I find her. So when the veto came off.

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Helen Harrison: I then reached out to her.

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Helen Harrison: but she couldn't for various reasons, have anything to do with me. So in the type of person I am is, I'm quite a determined person.

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Helen Harrison: and I thought, Well, Soju, you are going to know me. You're my mother.

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Helen Harrison: So for quite a few years I self tortured myself by sending her letters and photographs of my young boys, and really put myself through quite a hell.

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Helen Harrison: and I think it was on the final time that I got a return to sender.

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Helen Harrison: When I got the letters

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Helen Harrison: I had a number of letters returned, but the final one, I thought, what am I doing to myself? I was. I was doing it to myself because I had a belief that on some level she was going to save me, and that I'd find me if I found her

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Helen Harrison: so. It was in my early thirties when I made this decision. I remember just sitting there thinking, Well.

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Helen Harrison: how am I going to find me? Because I can't find her? So it was in that moment where I thought, Well, I've got to find me without her.

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Helen Harrison: and that's when I started to take some ownership in that. Well.

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Helen Harrison: I have to find me without her.

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Helen Harrison: Yeah.

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Natalie P.: Wow!

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Helen Harrison: I'm gonna.

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Natalie P.: Literally trying to write a story.

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Natalie P.: You're really, you are literally trying to author your own story, and you are.

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Natalie P.: The the ownership of it is someone else's until it's your own.

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Helen Harrison: Yes is.

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Helen Harrison: And it was a really defining moment

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Helen Harrison: that I have to find me without her.

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Natalie P.: Wow!

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Helen Harrison: Yeah. And that's where I started to take ownership for myself.

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Natalie P.: Right.

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Helen Harrison: Yeah, I have to. You know.

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Helen Harrison: it was like no one was going to save me, because in in my thinking, because I was filled with so much pain. I had so much anxiety. Panic attacks all of it, the ebbs and flows, you know, of depression. And yeah, I was not a happy camper.

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Helen Harrison: I really thought

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Helen Harrison: that if I found her then happy days. So it was a really defining moment. Yeah, yeah.

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Helen Harrison: Gosh, I'm just. I'm feeling all of it, because Hi!

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Natalie P.: Just I relate to it so much.

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Helen Harrison: Okay.

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Natalie P.: Just if I think about the

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Natalie P.: the, the reclaiming of power that we give to these stories.

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Natalie P.: yeah, and and reclaiming that and deciding to write our own story.

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Natalie P.: And

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Natalie P.: it is it is that shift that happens. I I recognize what you're talking about and it it's it's such a slight.

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Natalie P.: It's so formidable, it is so powerful. And yet it is so tiny.

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Natalie P.: Us, it's just finally just this spark that sparks that says

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Natalie P.: you. It's just the shift. It's just that tickle that happens that you're like I I've I've got to do something different. Here.

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Natalie P.: I've got to do something different. Here I have done my whole life.

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Natalie P.: Oh, my gosh! Like I've done my whole life in these patterns.

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Natalie P.: And I've finally just taken a step up to be able to look down

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Natalie P.: from an objective point of view and say, I'm the common denominator here, and rather than give away my power to all of these different.

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Natalie P.: I'm going to take it back, and I'm going to go back, and I'm gonna re rework

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Natalie P.: some stuff right? It's just like it's a beautiful thank you for finding the courage.

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Helen Harrison: Hmm.

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Natalie P.: To tell your story.

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Helen Harrison: Hmm, hmm.

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Natalie P.: I mean if and and the memoir is such a massive undertaking of itself to like the the like. I'm I have dreams of producing a memoir.

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Natalie P.: And so I'm in awe of you in that way, and just the whole process

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Natalie P.: you, when, before we hit record, we talked about there being so many other things you didn't anticipate coming

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Natalie P.: as a result of this entire, you know, releasing this book about, you know, inner wealth and and what it means to find pain and or to find purpose in pain.

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Helen Harrison: to to be a storyteller, and to take this to the next level and share it with the world.

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Natalie P.: What has this done for your life?

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Helen Harrison: It's taken me to a place inside

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Helen Harrison: the fear that came up while writing this book. There were so many layers to it, and it was I had to keep dropping through. I had to keep trusting. I had to keep letting go.

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Helen Harrison: And inner wealth is actually code for inner worth. I didn't know that.

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Helen Harrison: and that is the gift that I've got from writing this book is

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Helen Harrison: the inner worth that I have now got from this, because I've put myself out

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Helen Harrison: to be rejected on so many different levels.

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Helen Harrison: But you know what if I've got me and I know how to be there for me, and I now know how to love me and hold me. It's okay. Because whatever anybody outside of myself does.

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Helen Harrison: I have no control over that whatsoever.

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Helen Harrison: So when I started this journey I had no idea none. And it's still.

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Helen Harrison: you know, I want a big reason and a driver behind. This is, I didn't. It was this little thing inside of me. You've got to do this. You've got to do this. It's this tap, and it was getting bigger and bigger.

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Helen Harrison: and it's I didn't want to get to 80 or 90 and look back at my life and go. I didn't do what I really came here to do.

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Helen Harrison: I truly believe that we are here for a reason, and so for being adopted.

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Helen Harrison: You know I had for a long time

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Helen Harrison: before I started to take ownership of myself in my early thirties. You know I'm a mistake. I wasn't meant to be here. I wasn't wanted. I don't belong. All of these really dysfunctional, cruel beliefs.

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Helen Harrison: And the the key through all of this, and what I've got from this book is, I am wanted because I wanted by me.

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Helen Harrison: you know, and it's so in a wealth look, I could talk about this for hours.

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Natalie P.: Soon.

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Helen Harrison: Because I just it's it's it's an extraordinary journey writing your own memoir.

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Helen Harrison: because it's it's the only rejection is the rejection we do of ourselves. Full stop.

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Helen Harrison: Yeah, and to be able to trust something bigger, which is which is what I do

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Helen Harrison: and to be able to let go. And just. There's no order. There's no the world will receive this book or they won't.

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Helen Harrison: Yeah. So writing this has given me me. It's given me my own self-worth on a level that I've never, ever felt before.

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Helen Harrison: When I get busy caught up in the old patterns of my head, commenting on everything I can like. Now I'm sitting in my office here in Brisbane. My feet are on the ground. I can feel the back of the chair against my back. I'm in my body. And actually, that's really where I want to get to. It's given me embodiment.

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Helen Harrison: and I've been able to express what embodiment is, because if you haven't felt embodiment, or even know what that is, it's another language, and I've

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Helen Harrison: only through through what has happened.

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Helen Harrison: with my sister passing and then, being able to put it into words, into a book. That is what I want to put out into the world is, keep going. Your pain is pushing you. Your purpose is pulling you to drop into the body

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Natalie P.: I'm hearing a lot lately, and I want your input on this.

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Natalie P.: my, my past and my experiences are not traumatic enough

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Natalie P.: to warrant this healing that you're talking about, and my my life is not memoir material.

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Natalie P.: And so you know I so I don't know where to even begin with

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Natalie P.: my story. I know that I'm not happy, but it's not as I shouldn't. I shouldn't be happy. I should be happy because I I didn't have very much happened to me.

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Natalie P.: so I should just be grateful.

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Natalie P.: and I should ignore the fact that I'm not that I've got a nudge about being dissatisfied. What am I dissatisfied about? Other people? Have it so much worse than I do.

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Natalie P.: How do you? And so it becomes a comparison, like everything in our damn world, right?

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Natalie P.: Like we're gonna compare Arse.

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Natalie P.: No, no, no, no, no, no!

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Natalie P.: This is equal access.

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Natalie P.: Yours!

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Natalie P.: You're worthy because you have a story.

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Helen Harrison: Yes, you are worthy because you are alive and you're breathing full. Stop, yeah.

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Helen Harrison: And I suppose it's when did you take on the story of minimizing yourself.

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Helen Harrison: you know, diluting yourself, making yourself small.

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Helen Harrison: Yeah, I believe. If somebody has a tap.

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Helen Harrison: it's it's to really explore that, because that tap may not come in again, or it may not be as strong.

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Helen Harrison: and regret's a terrible thing.

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Helen Harrison: and I'm pushing, and I'm doing which is what what I've done. A very large part of my life.

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Helen Harrison: A lot of that's coming from Ego, and the

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Helen Harrison: part of me that I've designed to show up in the world to be loved.

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Helen Harrison: But when you let go of all of that, and come from

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Helen Harrison: that space of deep inner self.

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Helen Harrison: None of it is is mind led or ego led.

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Helen Harrison: Gosh! It's a much more peaceful way.

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Helen Harrison: you know it's slower, it's quieter, it's joy.

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Helen Harrison: and that's what feeds the soul that's that's happiness.

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Helen Harrison: It's just being at one with yourself.

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Helen Harrison: And we're all so different. But it's finding your own

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Helen Harrison: way through that. And what that looks like for you. You said I should be happy.

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Helen Harrison: So that's an interesting belief, isn't it? I should be happy.

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Helen Harrison: So all of this is self

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Helen Harrison: bringing it home. Lending in, you know. Talk about

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Helen Harrison: particularly working with people. It's about being able to come in land and come home, and that's what I've done

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Helen Harrison: and continue to do. Is it easy? No, I've got to constantly, because I can easily go back to the old patterns.

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Helen Harrison: you know, and where it's hard and pushing.

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Helen Harrison: but it's constantly coming in and landing and coming home. So for me. And that's what's come out of this. This book is the awareness

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Helen Harrison: of coming home. So I have. Quite a

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Helen Harrison: isn't it interesting? I was saying. Diligent

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Helen Harrison: meditation practice, but I have. I have some disciplines that I know I need to keep landing in and coming home. It's like I've got to visit home. So home is deep within me. It's that beautiful, peaceful, loving place where I land in, and it's just

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Helen Harrison: bliss. And, Natalie, you would know what I'm talking about, because you wouldn't be doing this work and showing up in the world with what you're doing if you didn't have this place.

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Helen Harrison: So it's it's coming in. And I think I hope

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Helen Harrison: that my story by me being vulnerable and sharing the places that I've gone to. It isn't about my story. It's to tap into your story and to allow yourself to come in and make peace with your story and all that's happened in your world.

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Natalie P.: and then it's like a ripple effect. You'll then pass that on it's like the baton you pass it on to the next person.

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Helen Harrison: Yeah, because my story really almost disappears into insignificance because it isn't about my story. It's what it's tapped and activated in you.

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Helen Harrison: Yeah, that's the magic, and that's what I want to spread.

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Helen Harrison: And that excites me.

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Natalie P.: Right.

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Natalie P.: Yeah, the the the idea that you know that we are not worthy

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Natalie P.: depending on. When you come into these conversations with yourself.

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Natalie P.: It's that's a very slippery slope to get into. I was there myself, where, when I decided, I was ready to dig in, I consumed self-help books, I listened to every. Podcast I read everything I get my hands on. I read the Bible. I read that like I was a fiend.

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Natalie P.: Worry about getting to a place where you can leap off and go travel the world and look at the Pyramids and look like that's coming. You can go there if you want to. But start. Don't not start because you don't believe you're worthy of that.

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Natalie P.: They don't have to be massive, you know, wham bams. It's putting it out there and seeing you know what might grow out of a direct message on Linkedin, you know, to say, Hey, I really love what you're doing. I think I need to talk to you.

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Helen Harrison: and that's when I did reach out, and I reached out to my very 1st counsellor, who I now see quite regularly as a friend, which is really interesting. But all those decades ago, and the 1st 3 sessions I sat and I sobbed. It's all I did.

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Helen Harrison: I sat and I sobbed because I had someone sitting in front of me who held my pain and held the container for me to actually fully express how I felt in that moment, and I will be forever grateful. She is so in my heart because she actually showed me what's possible that it's okay that I feel this pain.

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Helen Harrison: She's holding the container for unconditional love.

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Helen Harrison: start feeling the grief and the pain, because that's what most people have. And I instinctively knew, and I really don't know how that I thought I have to keep unraveling. We're a bit like an onion, and we've got layers and layers, and in the middle of that onion is the real you, the authentic, you, not the you that you've created to be loved.

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Helen Harrison: and I just somehow instinctively knew that I got to keep peeling the layers back, layers back layers back. And that's what I've been doing in my since my early thirties, and I continue to do it, and I will do it for the rest of my life.

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Natalie P.: And keep coming back to yourself and.

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Helen Harrison: So even now doing this podcast. With you. And this, I will have to say, is so refreshing

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Helen Harrison: whereas you've held the space in the container because you're sitting in front of me, and you're embodied. You're in your body, and you hold the space in the container for me to do this.

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Helen Harrison: So thank you. Yeah, yeah, beautiful. You come from that heart center.

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Natalie P.: And you're in the future.

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Natalie P.: What do we do? What do we need?

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Natalie P.: Give us all your secrets, Helen.

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Helen Harrison: Just start a really personal practice of self-compassion.

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Helen Harrison: Yeah. Yeah. And little reminders. I go back to my thirties. I stick. It's all over my mirror. So it was the first.st

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Helen Harrison: Yeah, beautiful.

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Natalie P.: Very, very, very, very good, very good. You're you said. Universe. You got me to write this book.

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Natalie P.: Now, what.

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Natalie P.: And and I want to, you know, for those of you listening. If Helen's words have resonated in any way, shape or form.

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Natalie P.: you have a ton of options.

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Natalie P.: You can grab a copy of her book. You can email her. You can visit her website. She's a smart, smart businesswoman. She has contact forms, she has. And I'm gonna put it all in the show notes. You've also got Youtube and Facebook, you're active on the different social platforms. I'm gonna include all of that.

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Natalie P.: any last thoughts before we land this plane.

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Helen Harrison: Love it. I am feeling extremely grateful to have had this opportunity to connect with you.

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Helen Harrison: Keep doing what you're doing.

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Helen Harrison: You're you're so on purpose. And yeah, just love it. And what a great way I'm going to go and have breakfast now and

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Helen Harrison: very grateful. Thank you. Thank you very, very much. Yeah. And yeah, for anybody listening. I love what you said, Natalie. Start where you are at.

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Natalie P.: Helen's, Helen's juicy. I love it.

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Natalie P.: And I will add, Yeah, if if it sparks

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Natalie P.: if it sparks, today's conversation sparks something in you don't let it stay in your head. Share it

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Natalie P.: right, share it. Send. Send this episode to a friend, write a note down you heard, start a conversation. Go have breakfast, create a space for yourself to reflect. But what I've come to know, and what I'm coming to understand in a very beautiful way is that healing is a ripple effect, and every single share of your love

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Helen Harrison: Yeah, yeah.

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Natalie P.: Live in. And so I I appreciate you being here. I appreciate everyone listening, and it's not lost on me that time is your most valuable asset, and so that you would

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Natalie P.: consider spending it with me in some form, in parts. Pause in between, in between chores, whatever. I just. I'm I'm humbled, so thank you. And until next time keep thinking out loud with me.

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Helen Harrison: Thank you.